The first time we heard Slayer, we were like, 'What is this?'"
Wikimetal (Daniel Dystyler): Starting another episode here on Wikimetal, I, Daniel Dystyler, am here with Rafael Masini, and I'm with two people who I wanted to say that the show is going to be really cool, really good, really awesome because of that, but that would be underestimating what this show is going to be. For me, it's truly an honor to be with two people, a band, that is perhaps the band that has always carried the flag of Metal in our country in a way that few others have, right? I'm with Dick, I'm with Antônio from Korzus, both obviously need no introduction, but just so everyone knows, Dick has obviously been the bassist since the beginning of Korzus' history, and Antônio has been in the band for almost 3 years, and since '83 they've really been on the road raising this flag for almost 30 years. Doing the same thing for 30 years, I don't know, maintaining a marriage for 30 years, working at the same company for 30 years, anything for 30 years is difficult, very difficult, so carrying this flag... Before you all speak, I wanted to say something from the heart: thank you so much for existing, thank you so much for being here on Wikimetal, and thank you so much for everything you've done for Brazilian Metal.
(DS): I'm the one who should be thanking you for all this praise, and thank you for continuing with Metal through Wikimetal, man. You haven't abandoned it, you're taking it forward, someone always has to keep going. One day we'll all stop. One day my hand won't touch anymore, my back, my neck won't want to "headbang" anymore.
W (DD): A long time from now.
(DS): So I'm going to have to play the stool and the guitar, right man? Someone always has to keep doing this work. Dirty work has to continue.
Wikimetal (Rafael Masini): There's something that I've been following Korzus since I was a kid, actually Antônio shouldn't even have been born yet.
(AA): Ah, possibly.
W (RM): Possibly. I have a vinyl of your live album, the red one where Pompeu yells, "Hey you guys in the back, come to the front, headbangers, come to the front!"
(DS): Wow, that was in '85 at SESC Pompéia.
W (RM): Whenever I still listen to that Korzus vinyl, it's like that, it's aggressive, it really comes forward, it's "blood in its eyes".
W (DD): And since you're talking about that time, Rafael and I toured with Dick, with Pompeu, with the guys who are still in the band and those who aren't anymore, I think at the time there was Nicastro, there was Silvio, there was Betão on drums, we did several Viper and Korzus shows, some in Rio, some in Santos at that circus, at Caverna 2 in Botafogo. Do you remember anything from that tour, any interesting or funny memories?
(DS): I remember! I remember! We were on Ipanema beach, midday, 40-degree sun, Nicastrão turns around and says, “Hey, a real headbanger wears a leather jacket and boots in Rio de Janeiro, in Ipanema.” And the guys all put on leather jackets and boots, man, and walked around all in black on the beach, everyone was staring, lots of naked women, a bunch of muscular guys, and all the guys were long-haired, super pale, walking back and forth, and the Viper kids were kind of scared, “Wow, these Korzus guys are crazy.” It was hilarious.
W (DD): And the plan for our trip, remember? They split us up among the guys' houses, Rafael and I stayed in Leblon, you guys stayed at André Smirnoff's house.
(DS): It's Smirnoff. Man, we raided the guy's fridge.
W (DD): Wow, how did that go?
(DS): Man, there was a padlock all the way to the fridge because the guy was fat, right? So the guy's mom was away, he called everyone over to do the show, the guy owned the fanzine, right? It was a mosh pit, wasn't it?
W (DD): Mosh, that's right, Mosh Fanzine.
(DS): So the guy arrived and made some pasta that even my dog wouldn't eat. Then the guy said, "There's some food for the guys. I'm going to my uncle's house, he's having a party, I'll be back in the late afternoon." Great! Like, we looked at it and thought, "Hey, why does your fridge have a padlock on it? On the freezer?" The guy said, "It's because I'm fat and I eat everything, my mom locks it when she travels." Great! We looked and said, "Dude, this fridge has a padlock. It has a key. Let's find it!" The guy left the house and we started searching the whole apartment, we found the key, man. We found the freezer key, opened the freezer, put all the frozen food in the oven and made a huge meal. The guy got home and started crying, "My mom's going to hit me, she'll think it was me!" And the craziest thing is, Felipe remembered a detail: the guy had the biggest collection of foreign Playboy magazines. We took all the Playboy magazines from him, removed all the "naked women" posters from the Playboy, and stuck the Playboy posters on the back of all the pictures in his house. When his mom went to clean the picture frames and take them down, they'd be full of naked women. Holy shit, it was hilarious. We only did stupid things, man, there was no way around it, even today. We're much more restrained now, but damn, when all the bums get together, it's no use.
"The guys all put on leather jackets and boots, and walked around the beach dressed in black."
W (DD): Do you keep in touch with Betão and Nicastro?
(DS): Oh, sometimes we run into them. Nicastro is Silvio's cousin, right? Silvio isn't in the band, but he knows everything that's going on, he's everywhere, there's a little rehearsal and he's like, "Hey, I'm going to stop by to jam a bit."
(AA): Stay there, keep playing with me, old man.
W (DD): That's great.
(DS): He's freaking out, man.
(AA): Silvão is a great guy.
(DS): Silvão is still part of the band, soul and heart.
W (RM): Let me just ask a question, actually. There's even an urban legend about Korzus, right? And when I was a kid I listened to them because I always really liked guitar picking. It's amazing, I'd say "Korzus has great guitar picking" and everyone talks about it, even Antônio who's been around for two and a half years, right?
(AA): 3.
W (RM): I heard a legend, and you can tell me if this was true and if it still happens today, that Nicastro and Silvio would stand face to face, like mirrors, watching each other's guitar playing. I kept hearing this: "You know the guys from Korzus are good, they stand face to face and it has to be mirror image, mirror image." Is this true or is it a legend?
(DS): Ah, I did it all the time because it was a time when we were learning to play, right? The 80s. Man, there were no video lessons, there was no internet, there were no video lessons, there were no rock teachers. There were bossa nova teachers, jazz teachers, musical scale teachers. There wasn't a guy who said "rock plays like this," we'd listen to it on a CD and say, "What do these guys do to make that pram pram pram?"
(AA): He turned around to do the same, didn't he?
(DS): We used to say "fuck." Then we'd go crazy. Then there was the "Topper Man" era, he had some pedals that a friend of his made at home. Then he'd connect 3 or 4 pedals, one on top of the other, to get a distortion similar to the gringo's, and we'd say, "Damn, but it's not the same." Then we'd rip the speaker off the cabinet to make it go "puuuuu" more, to fart more, fuck. Man, Nicastrão, we even made iron picks, we took a Fender pick to the metalworker and said, "My brother makes them out of iron like this, more or less this thickness." I still have an iron pick at home, man, to see if it would make that "cra cra cra" sound, and we had Giannini guitars, we didn't have any pickups, not even a DiMarzio, so it was crazy to do that. So we'd listen to vinyl and think, "How is that guy doing that?" The first time we heard Slayer, we were like, "What is this?" The guys were like, "It's a fucking metal band." No, it's not metal, it's punk, and then suddenly the solo came in, holy shit, it's punk with a solo, man. So cool.
W (DD): By the way, which brings me to the topic I wanted to talk about, which is your new album, which is sensational. It's unbelievable, for me it's by far Korzus' best album, I think it's really, really cool, both from a production point of view – you can't say it's the best, but it's on an international level, it leaves nothing to be desired – and the songs? The songs are really cool. Especially the beginning, the beginning of the album, Discipline Of Hate, Truth, which you made a music video for that's also a very well-done investment, the visuals are really cool, those kind of round screens, it's a really cool visual, and then the whole album. There's 2012 which has that Spanish recording at the beginning.
(DS): That guy over there is a real shaman.
(AA): That's a Mayan shaman.
(DS): About 2012.
W (DD): I was going to ask that, was this thing made for the album? Did you get it from somewhere?
(AA): Yeah. I found it on the internet. I was obsessed with it, I was thinking, "Wow, that song deserves an intro." So I was looking on the internet and searched on YouTube: 2012 Maia. Then an interview with a sociologist named Carl Johan came up, and he was interviewing this shaman Maia. I ripped his audio, separated the dialogue, and then I thought, "Wow, this could cause trouble." Because it was an interview. So I sent an email to the guy, and the next day he replied, "Dude, what's this? You can use it, no problem." The doctor, the sociologist, and then we put it up.
W (DD): And the music is also a really cool song. Then there's Slaver, which is a real banger.
(AA): It's a fight, right?
W (DD): Very cool, very cool. I found the record…
(DS): And there are some that weren't released here, right? They only came out in the European version, and another one that was supposed to come out in the Japanese version, and another one that was supposed to come out in the United States version, but in the end the European version came out the same as the United States version.
(AA): And the one from Japan hasn't come out yet.
(DS): And it hasn't been released from Japan yet.
W (DD): So there's more music to be released yet?
(DS): So we still have two songs up our sleeve.
(AA): I still have two songs up my sleeve.
(DS): Which are really cool.
W (DD): Very good! Great.
(AA): And the hypocrisy that only came out in Brazil.
(DS): Only hypocrisy came out in Brazil.
W (DD): Oh, that's what I was going to say, that it's a song in Portuguese, right? The whole album is in English.
(AA): Which was only released in Brazil.
We even went so far as to make iron guitar picks to see if we could get that sound out of them.”
W (DD): Very good! Cool. And now, speaking of the whole world you're talking about, bags packed, right?
Are you traveling on Sunday?
(AA): Sunday, nine o'clock at night we're leaving.
(DS): Sharp blades.
W (DD): So, a tour in Europe?
(DS): Yes.
W (DD): 4 countries? What?
(DS): 4 countries, we mentioned Austria, Germany, most of them, right? Belgium and Switzerland.
W (DD): So, what are the expectations? What have you heard?
(DS): Look, I think it's above average, because we already know that two shows are sold out and we're not going as an opening band. We're going as co-headliners, having the right to use 100% of the lighting and 100% of the sound.
(AA): This time we're going to share the backline with the main band, we're going to use the same backline.
(DS): Ektomorf, which is a band from Hungary, we became very good friends with the vocalist, Zoltán. He participated in a song here on Discipline called We Are Just The Same, which is a song that says that any person anywhere in the world is equal, man. That means, we meant, the headbangers, right? Within our style, but it's something that encompasses everyone, it's also a thought of this guy, of this band, because he's a gypsy, so he said that in Europe he's a very discriminated person.
(AA): Mainly in Hungary.
(DS): In Hungary, the guy managed to grow thanks to the band, to gain respect and all that. Then the guy said, "Wow, man," he really identified with us here in Brazil, with our receptiveness, you know?
(AA): Not to mention that the guy loves Brazilian Metal.
(DS): Loves Brazilian Metal. Well, let's talk, the guy is Sepultura's and Max Cavalera's number one fan.
(AA): If you see, if you listen to Ektomorf, you'll see that it has Soulfly influence.
(DS): It's a total influence of Soulfly and Sepultura.
W (DD): That's cool. You mentioned the bands from the 70s. Heavy Metal started with Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, all that stuff. When you put it on shuffle, like random on your MP3 player to listen to any old music, and a Heavy Metal song from the old days comes on and you're like, "Damn, I can't stop rocking to this song." What song is that? What song makes you really say, "This song..."
(DS): Is it a joke to have one? It's difficult. I have at least 100 that I listen to.
(AA): If it's on MP3, all of them, right?
W (DD): But tell me, which one comes to mind, the first one? It doesn't have to be the best.
(DS): Man, I'll tell you: it's even a song I wish I had written, damn.
W (DD): Which one is it?
(DS): Damn, I listen to Breaking The Law, the house fell down, man, there's nowhere you are that you won't headbang, you'll play some air guitar, damn, I played so much air guitar with that song in my room when I was a kid.
W (DD): Excellent! You did very well. Breaking The Law, Judas Priest.
(DS): That's right.
W (RM): Okay, so after that tip from Dick of Breaking The Law, I want to tell a story, too bad Pompeu isn't here. Around 2003, I had a band, and after rehearsal, the vocalist and I went for a drink. We stayed at the bar until closing time, then we went to another bar, an old dive bar on Santo Amaro Avenue. I looked around and there was a guy drinking, talking to the bartender. I said, "Damn, that guy is Pompeu, right, from Korzus?" I thought, "He's not going to remember me from the trip with Viper, not a chance." I was already older, so I went over there acting like a fan. I went up and said, "Hey Marcelo Pompeu, I like Korzus." He said, "Damn, that's great!" and something like, "I've been following Korzus since the beginning, SP Metal." He said, "Hey, come here, are you there with your car?" I said, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." "Do you have a CD player in your car?" I said, "Do you have it?" He said, "I have the master tape for the next Korzus CD." I said, "No." From Ties Of Blood. Then later, when that album—because it blew up, you know—it's going to be surpassed by Discipline because Discipline is really, really good, but I thought it was Korzus' best album up to that one, and I listened to it like…
W (DD): Before everyone else.
W (RM): Before everyone else.
(DS): Wow, cool man.
W (RM): And the three drunk guys, me, the vocalist of my band, and Pompeu, opened the car doors and put it on. I said, "What's this?" He said, "This is Korzus!" All proud, I said, "Wow, that's great!" I told this story to Dany and he said, "I don't believe it."
(DS): Cool because you got exclusive access, damn it. Headbanging in a drunken bar, no less. Exclusivity! It's whoever deserves to hear it first!
W (RM): Damn, I almost said, "Give Pompeu two or three more beers," I said, "I'll steal that CD for myself."
W (DD): Let's take advantage of this exclusivity thing, a curiosity. You're a Jägerband, right? Sponsored by Jägermeister, how does that work? How did that conversation go? What does that represent? There's something curious about this because I didn't know much about the drink, and because of my work I go to the United States fairly regularly, I have some friends who live there and when I go there we rent a studio, I play guitar and we jam there just to make some noise.
(DS): Take a break.
W (DD): The American Fuckin' Number, a big hug to Rod, Carlão, Rafaelzinho and Alexandre. So, one time after that rehearsal we were in a little bar next to the studio near Boston and we were drinking beer and stuff and Rafael, who was the keyboardist, said, "Hey, do you know Jägermeister?" I said, "No, I don't." Let's order a shot and a round for everyone.
(DS): Headbanging Drink.
W (DD): Dude, I went to the hotel, I turned my head upside down, man, what's that all about?
(DS): Did you vomit green or purple?
(AA): It's just that she's so sweet, you don't even notice when you see her, and it's already too late.
(DS): That's because this drink is an old German drink and it was a traditional drink, it was like an Underberg here…
(AA): But it's less spicy, it's sweeter.
(DS): The guy drinks it like it's a digestive aid, right? Then this drink started losing a lot of its audience, and the guys invested in Metal abroad, telling the story that it started happening in Germany and the United States.
W (DD): They have several bands that they sponsor.
(AA): Slayer.
(DS): And they started sponsoring only Metal bands and hardcore Metal, only the worst, only the most trashy ones.
W (DD): Did the invitation arrive?
(DS): We received the invitation through our manager, Gerard. He even had contacts with the Jägermeister people here in Brazil, and we became the first Brazilian Jäger band.
W (DD): That's great! And several boxes in the dressing room?
(AA): We're already drunk.
(DS): And there are the Jägerfest festivals, right? Those are the festivals that Jägermeister also sponsors abroad.
W (DD): That's great!
(DS): So I hope that because it's sponsored here in Brazil, it will also have an opening abroad that has nothing to do with it, right? Abroad, abroad, here, but…
W (DD): Who knows, maybe something will happen, right?
(DS): We're working together with the brand and it's great that they're investing in Metal.
W (DD): Very cool! Very good! Very cool! Antonio, choose which one is from the iPod shuffle when it falls like that…
(AA): Did you say Heavy Metal encompassing everything?
W (DD): It can be anything. Like Dick said very well, melodic, power, thrash, it's all metal, it's all one religion.
(AA): That's right, I think so too. But I'm in the same band.
W (DD): Judas too?
(AA): I'm going to Judas, Leather Rebel
W (DD): Damn, Leather Rebel is also really, really good. Very good.
W (RM): Couldn't take it anymore, huh?
(AA): You mentioned it and I started remembering a lot of Judas Priest songs here.
You have to go to that bar a thousand times, work hard to get there. If you skip all that and just show up, you don't have that experience.”
(DS): Damn British Steel, along with Reign In Blood, along with Bonded By Blood from Exodus, along with Number Of The Beast, man, it's a knockout, it's awesome, it's hard.
W (DD): For those who play guitar, I keep thinking, the Painkiller solo is unbelievable, the beginning of the solo.
(AA): That CD is sensational in every aspect, vocals, drums, revolutionary, right?
W (DD): It's really cool. And Judas Priest is the foundation, and they stopped that Nostradamus tour to do the British Steel tour, and now they've announced their retirement, and I hope they come here because it's Judas Priest's last tour. If they come here, the entire Metal community will be watching.
(AA): The whore has to go.
(DS): Judas Priest's show is fucking awesome, I saw Judas Priest's first show at Rock In Rio 2, holy shit, when Halford comes in on the motorcycle it's like mental masturbation right there and then, you get sick, it's fucking amazing.
(AA): The guy is the guy.
W (DD): Very good, so let's listen to some more Judas, shall we?
(DS): Let's beat them up.
W (DD): Well, that was Judas, another hit chosen by our friends from Korzus, and what were you guys saying just now, right? That international bands come here and sell out all the shows. Metallica has to open the second show, like you said, 80,000 people one night, 60,000 the next, meaning there's an audience and the venues…
(DS): And not even 10% of that audience comes to your show, it could be 8,000 people, man, I'd be happy, I'd be fucking happy, I'd pay my bills for the month, without having to stress, painting scenery for everyone, doing drawings, airbrushing, fuck, seriously man.
(AA): The strangest thing is that you know all 80,000 of those people know us.
(DS): You know, man, I was at the Metallica show, the guy from Korzus was making a mosh pit around me and I was like, "Holy shit, look at these guys!" It's fine, it's not that I'm embarrassed, it's cool to be a suck-up, but these guys are sucking up like crazy, man, damn, buy my CD and go to the show, you son of a bitch, stop sucking up to me like that.
W (DD): Every time we're talking like this, man, buy music, you want to get to know the band, download it to get to know them, on Korzus' website you can listen to the CD, but if you like it, buy it, if you don't want to buy the CD, then buy the t-shirt, go to the show, help this band because this band won't survive for free.
(AA): It's because, man, the truth is that CD sales make a huge difference in a band's career, so everything becomes easier if you sell well.
(DS): He said, "I saw your new video. We took all the money and invested it. Let's make an awesome video? Let's go! Let's make an awesome album? Let's go! Let's pay for a good cover from that guy? Let's go!"
W (DD): That's what he said about the band's planning, business vision.
(AA): The band's business vision. Planning is like this, those on the outside see it this way, they rarely have any idea of the amount of investment that is made, the amount of effort that is spent to have a cool music video online.
W (RM): It's a madness that goes beyond composition; it's not enough to just make a damn good song.
(DS): It's no use playing like crazy.
(AA): That's a perspective, and whoever has that perspective is the one who plays in their bedroom, the one who doesn't have, has never had a band, doesn't know what the music market is like, which is, man, wild.
(DS): A bunch of kids who play, play well, I don't know what in their rooms, when they go out into the real world, to play in bars, eat bread with mortadella, drink KiSuco…
(AA): To do a show without a return.
(DS): Warm beer, getting drunk at the show. Where's the guy who closed the show? He disappeared.
(AA): Where's the money?
W (DD): It's even interesting to know…
(DS): Carrying equipment, hurting your back, getting screwed.
(AA): To spend 3 days without sleeping, without showering.
(DS): Without showering, what 3 days? It goes on for weeks sometimes, my god, the guys don't, they come out of the room playing and think they're going to have everyone at their feet.
W (RM): You think you're going to become a star, right?
(DS): I've seen a lot of bands that started out, "No, because I want the recording to be just like Angra's." Cover art done by the same woman who did Angra's. I want the stage design you do, just like theirs. Come on, don't do that, you're not going to use it, man. We're just giving advice, I'm not a jerk. I tell them to make a giant backdrop, a small one that you can play in a dive bar, at a festival, and if it's for a big event, then you can think about investing in something big. My God, these guys dream that they're going to be a huge success. Then they say, "Oh, we opened for that big band and nobody applauded." Man, you have to play in dive bars a thousand times, work hard, suffer to get there, dude. If you skip all that and get there, you don't have that experience. What's going to happen? You'll go up there and just wave your hand, playing. You might even play well, but you don't have feeling, you don't have anything.
W (RM): And the crowd won't even recognize you, they'll just want you to hurry up so they can get to the band.
W (DD): Much of what you said also relates to the idea that you don't know about a Metal style that has this segmentation, here in Brazil, which is kind of ridiculous. Metal has been Metal since the 70s, Hard Rock.
(DS): Since Elvis.
W (DD): That's right.
(AA): You go to the big festivals in Europe, people who see Ektomorf's show, see Angra's show.
W (DD): That's right. And then the scene gets much stronger. We don't have the volume to segment it like that, because then there are very few people in each segment and none of them generate volume, don't generate money, don't generate space.
"A fan is a supporter, or should be."
(AA): And it's something that's a vision, for example, in Europe and the first world it's already much stronger than here in Brazil. It's the vision that fans have that they are also responsible for the band's career and that they can help the band's career. So, for example, merchandise sells abroad.
W (DD): It's like a football team. It's like a fan base for the band.
(AA): It's not like here. Here, if you sell 10 shirts at a show, it's a miracle.
(DS): Dude, we played in Brasília, at the Petrobras Open Air festival, free entry, a bunch of bands. If I told you we sold one t-shirt? One!!!
(DS): He didn't pay the person who sold him the t-shirt.
(AA): No, that's not a cultural thing anymore. That's a Brazilian cultural thing.
(DS): So we're going to play in the countryside here in São Paulo, Itapira, 250 kids, damn, we sold 50 t-shirts, man. Holy shit!
(AA): That's why if you go to play in Europe, you sell 20, 30 every day.
(DS): Every day.
W (DD): And that generates money, right?
(AA): Wow, that generates capital.
(DS): Man, we even heard stories about bands that we think are big, and they pay to get on tours, and they pay a lot, like it's expensive. They even spent a fortune to get on the Big Four tour. The tour ended, man, they paid for the tour and came back loaded with money from selling so many t-shirts.
(AA): It's because, man, the audience there sees your band play and thinks, "Damn, I liked it, the band is awesome, I'm going to buy a shirt."
(DS): Because I know that money will help the guys. He's not buying the t-shirt to help the t-shirt manufacturer, he's helping the band.
(AA): Sure.
(DS): It's the CD, it's the band.
W (DD): It's a bit like that. In English, there's a word called "support," which means to help. Here in Brazil, we have the same concept as buying a football team's jersey, where you want to help support the team, and that doesn't happen with national bands, which is a shame.
(AA): Transfer the same concept from football to music.
W (DD): You root for the band, you want to help the band.
(AA): A fan is a supporter, or should be.
W (DD): That's it.
(AA): I, at least, root for the bands I like; I want to see them huge.
W (DD): Well, we're wrapping up this program, which, as I said at the beginning, was an honor to have you guys on. Faustão says that whoever goes there becomes a partner, he used to say that on Perdidos na Noite, right? "Ah, you became a partner of the program." I hope you guys really do become partners of Wikimetal, and that you come back later to tell us how your tour went.
(DS): We're inviting you.
W (DD): Definitely. Let's keep in touch. Korzus has a bunch of shows in Europe now, then there's a show in Santa Catarina and then other shows.
(DS): Interior here too.
W (DD): Folks can stay tuned to the website korzus.com.br to find out all the news about Korzus.
(AA): Twitter also says Korzus Official with 2 “F”s.
W (DD): Korzus Official with two "F"s to avoid any mistakes. Facebook?
(AA): Facebook – Korzus Brasil on facebook. Myspace.com/Korzus.
(DS): There are even photo blogs that kids don't even use anymore, but they exist. Anything you could want.
(AA): TwitPic. And there's also the community on Orkut that has about 8,000 members and stuff, a cool community.
W (RM): And the site is really cool, right? Everything, everything. First you enter the site and it starts with Discipline Of Hate and the images.
W (DD): Oh, that's what I was going to say, the website was built around the album cover, right? And it's really cool that as you navigate, it actually scrolls down. I thought that idea was great because you're always seeing that wonderful image, which is the album cover. Not only is the visual aspect carefully considered, but the sound quality is also very good.
W (RM): And here in the upper left corner is the tour information, right? The dates, where they are. That's really good.
(AA): Yes, it has everything.
W (DD): To wrap up today's program again, thank you so much for being here, 10 out of 10! Thank you very much.
(DS): Thanks, my brother.
(AA): Thank you.
W (DD): And what about Discipline Of Rate or Truth? What do you want?
(DS): It's up to you.
W (DD): Rafael, choose one.
W (RM): If we like it, let's play both then.
W (DD): Okay then.
(DS): That's it! Give him a beating.
(AA): Play both, even better.
(DS): Wow, it was a pleasure to meet you guys, you're from the old school too. You're part of Metal history, even if you weren't on stage, you were on stage hidden behind the amplifiers.
W (DD): That's it, chasing after a cable that was tangled up.
W (RM): And I'd get a lot of flak if it didn't work out.
W (DD): Taking down those giant cloths after the show.
(DS): Man, it's thanks to you guys that things are going well. It's not just the band that makes it work; without your team, fans, and collaborators, nothing would move forward.
W (DD): Let's see if we can make Wikimetal a real portal that everyone comes to. We want to bring together bands and this group of people who have a legion of fans.
(AA): Congratulations on the initiative, man, Wikimetal is really important, we know that the mainstream media doesn't pay attention to Metal. Metal is a genre that stands on its own two feet and you guys are responsible for that.
W (DD): Very good, more Korzus for you guys, two bangers, the first two from Korzus' best album. Thanks!
(DS): That's right, I hope you break your necks.